JANE PAULEY: I love everything about that. If I go for a day and don't make anything I feel guilty about it. And if I skip working out I feel guilty about it. Whether it's a painting, whether it's a song. And for me it was very helpful because, I don't know about you, but I want to do something every day. Right? (laughs) But it turned out to be true. I mean, you know, they were looking for anything to give me s*** about. JANE PAULEY: This morning I was getting ready to come here, looking over my notes and coffee at Starbucks and unaware of the soundtrack until what would come up but "Jack & Diane." It was 2017 and they're still playing "Jack & Diane."
#PINK HOUSES JOHN MELLENCAMP MEANING PROFESSIONAL#
They came to see a professional and they're gonna see a professional. JOHN MELLENCAMP: Didn't used to be when I was a kid, but as I got older, out of respect to the audience. JANE PAULEY: That's true? Didn't use to be. I'm respectful to the audience and I always wear a suit on stage. (laughs) You know? Except when I go on stage. But for me the scarf makes it look more dressed up because normally I look like a bag of s*** in a T-shirt and jeans. But that scarf makes it look kind of casual. When Doc wears it, he's always dressed up. And so I thought, "I wanna try that." And I tried it and I liked it. And so I thought it was very unusual 'cause he always wears a suit and a tie, and then he had this scarf wrapped around there. JOHN MELLENCAMP: The scarf thing is, a friend of mine wears one all the time. The covered bracelet thing you got going. So what do I have to do? I immediately have to balance it by saying "Oh, I got this at a flea market." Now, see? What I just did was a totally me thing to do that I have come to regard as a Hoosier thing, that may not be blamed on the state of our birth at all. JANE PAULEY: There's nothing else to look at. JOHN MELLENCAMP: I just noticed watch and it was, like, "That's a Hermes watch. And if you look at your friends who you grew up with, I think what I just said will justify and solidify that statement. I don't think it was very encouraging for young people our age. And for a little guy trying to start out or a little girl trying to start out to do something it was not encouraging. "Get big or get out" was the motto of the Reagan years. Corporate America was taking over all the farming. JOHN MELLENCAMP: How about, like, the whole state went out of business? (laughs) I mean, all the small towns disappeared. JANE PAULEY: What happened in the Reagan years that was discouraging here? a young person in Indiana, hopes and dreams were sort of dashed and the fact that you and I both, and a couple of other people that I could name, forged and soldiered on is really surprising to me. JOHN MELLENCAMP: Well, you're not encouraged to get outside of the box very much here. Because how could you possibly feel interesting? We're not raised to feel interesting here even if you were really interesting.
JANE PAULEY: But, you know, I deliberately ask that in hopes that you might say that, 'cause you have said that sometimes before, "I'm not interesting." And I wonder if that is just a little bit of the Hoosier thing that you and I have in common.
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